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Darius

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03.03.2003 - 22:00

Ja hallo!

Ich wollt nur mal wissen was ihr denkt würde von Star Trek gehen und was nicht! Was scheint realistisch für euch?

Danke

-Darius

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03.03.2003 - 22:03

ja, GEHT DAS?

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03.03.2003 - 22:08

gutes buch zum thema. lesenswert.

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03.03.2003 - 22:09

hab ich irgendwo gelesen:

wenn die enterprise licht onboard hat, uns sie fliegen jetzt mit warp 9 (9 facher lichtgeschw. (für die n00bs) dann müsste das licht 9 jahre bis zur enterprise brauchen, wenn sie dann wieder stehen bleiben würde- LOL

aber ich denke kaum das wir "menschen" jeeee mit lichtgeschw. fliegen werden können...

MFG

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03.03.2003 - 22:12

Zitat von Brain_Death
wenn die enterprise licht onboard hat, uns sie fliegen jetzt mit warp 9 (9 facher lichtgeschw. (für die n00bs)

warp 9 is a bissi mehr wie 9fache lichtgeschwindigkeit :rolleyes:

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03.03.2003 - 22:15

Zitat von DKCH
warp 9 is a bissi mehr wie 9fache lichtgeschwindigkeit

tja, so kann man sich irren! sry

MFG

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30.03.2003 - 19:18

falls noch wen interessiert

For ideal conditions, such as are found in interstellar space, the speeds of TNG warp factors are calculated using either of two formulae :

Up to Warp 9 :

V/c = WF^(10/3)

Which is very similar to the Cochrane Scale. Beyond Warp 9 the formula becomes somewhat more complex. It is best approximated by :

V/c = WF^[{(10/3)+a*(-Ln(10-WF))^n}+f1*((WF-9)^5)+f2*((WF-9)^11)]

Where a is the subspace field density, n is the electromagnetic flux, and f1 and f2 are the Cochrane refraction and reflection indexes respectively. Under ideal conditions values of a = 0.00264320, n = 2.87926700, f1 = 0.06274120 and f2 = 0.32574600 can be expected within a "normal" area of deep interstellar space. The values for TNG warp speeds under these conditions are shown below, along with travel times across typical distances :

Code:

 	 	TIME TO TRAVEL
Warp 	c	A	B	C	D	E	F
1	1	1.3333 Sec	11.1 Hours	5.0 Years	20.0 Years	8,000.0 Years2,000,000 Years
2	10	0.1323 Sec	1.1 Hours	181.1 Days	2.0 Years	793.7 Years	198,425.1 Years
3	39	0.0342 Sec	17.1 Minutes	46.9 Days	187.5 Days	205.4 Years	51,360.1 Years
4	102	0.0131 Sec	6.6 Minutes	18.0 Days	71.9 Days	78.7 Years	19,686.3 Years
5	214	0.0062 Sec	3.1 Minutes	8.5 Days	34.2 Days	37.4 Years	9,356.9 Years
6	392	0.0034 Sec	1.7 Minutes	4.6 Days	18.6 Days	20.4 Years	5,095.6 Years
7	656	0.0020 Sec	1.0 Minutes	2.8 Days	11.1 Days	12.2 Years	3,048.2 Years
8	1,024	0.0013 Sec	39.1 Sec	1.8 Days	7.1 Days	7.8 Years	1,953.1 Years
9	1,516	0.0009 Sec	26.4 Sec	1.2 Days	4.8 Days	5.3 Years	1,318.9 Years
9.1	1,573	0.0008 Sec	25.4 Sec	1.2 Days	4.6 Days	5.1 Years	1,271.2 Years
9.2	1,649	0.0008 Sec	24.3 Sec	1.1 Days	4.4 Days	4.9 Years	1,212.9 Years
9.3	1,693	0.0008 Sec	23.6 Sec	1.1 Days	4.3 Days	4.7 Years	1,181.6 Years
9.4	1,757	0.0008 Sec	22.8 Sec	1.0 Days	4.2 Days	4.6 Years	1,138.3 Years
9.5	1,828	0.0007 Sec	21.9 Sec	24.0 Hours	4.0 Days	4.4 Years	1,093.9 Years
9.6	1,909	0.0007 Sec	21.0 Sec	23.0 Hours	3.8 Days	4.2 Years	1,047.7 Years
9.7	2,044	0.0007 Sec	19.6 Sec	21.4 Hours	3.6 Days	3.9 Years	978.5 Years
9.8	2,304	0.0006 Sec	17.4 Sec	19.0 Hours	3.2 Days	3.5 Years	868.0 Years
9.9	3,053 	0.0004 Sec	13.1 Sec	14.4 Hours	2.4 Days	2.6 Years	655.1 Years
9.95	4,183	0.0003 Sec	9.6 Sec	10.5 Hours	1.7 Days	1.9 Years	478.1 Years
9.975	5,552	0.0002 Sec	7.2 Sec	7.9 Hours	1.3 Days	1.4 Years	360.2 Years
9.99	7,912	0.0002 Sec	5.1 Sec	5.5 Hours	22.2 Hours	1.0 Years	252.8 Years
9.995	10,553	0.0001 Sec	3.8 Sec	4.2 Hours	16.6 Hours	276.7 Days	189.5 Years
9.999	25,567	0.0001 Sec	1.6 Sec	1.7 Hours	6.9 Hours	114.2 Days	78.2 Years
9.9999	199,516	0.0000 Sec	0.2 Sec	13.2 Minutes	52.7 Minutes	14.6 Days	10.0 Years
10	Infinite	An object at warp 10 travels at infinite speed, occupying all points in the universe simultaneously


A=Earth to Moon (400,000 km)	
B=Across Sol System (12 billion km)	
C=To nearby star (5 ly)	
D=Across Sector (20 ly)	
E=Across Federation (8,000 ly)	
F=To Andromeda (2 million ly)

Bearbeitet von am 31.03.2003, 07:36 (bitte auf die Größe achten!)

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30.03.2003 - 19:31

woher hast du das?

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30.03.2003 - 19:32

.............................................................. a so a schmarrn .......................................

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30.03.2003 - 19:47

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Darius  Guru Registered: Dec 2001 Location: Vienna Posts: 2068	03.03.2003 - 22:00 Ja hallo! Ich wollt nur mal wissen was ihr denkt würde von Star Trek gehen und was nicht! Was scheint realistisch für euch? Danke -Darius
HUJILU Parkplatzrunner Registered: Apr 2000 Location: Vienna Posts: 4885	03.03.2003 - 22:03 ja, GEHT DAS?
Guest Deleted User Registered: n/a Location: Posts: n/a	03.03.2003 - 22:08 gutes buch zum thema. lesenswert. http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/AS...2515706-7658120 ISBN: 3453109813
b_d natürlich unwissend Registered: Jul 2002 Location: 0x3FC Posts: 10528	03.03.2003 - 22:09 hab ich irgendwo gelesen: wenn die enterprise licht onboard hat, uns sie fliegen jetzt mit warp 9 (9 facher lichtgeschw. (für die n00bs) dann müsste das licht 9 jahre bis zur enterprise brauchen, wenn sie dann wieder stehen bleiben würde- LOL aber ich denke kaum das wir "menschen" jeeee mit lichtgeschw. fliegen werden können... MFG -ICH-
DKCH ... Registered: Aug 2002 Location: # Posts: 3258	03.03.2003 - 22:12 Zitat von Brain_Death wenn die enterprise licht onboard hat, uns sie fliegen jetzt mit warp 9 (9 facher lichtgeschw. (für die n00bs) warp 9 is a bissi mehr wie 9fache lichtgeschwindigkeit
b_d natürlich unwissend Registered: Jul 2002 Location: 0x3FC Posts: 10528	03.03.2003 - 22:15 Zitat von DKCH warp 9 is a bissi mehr wie 9fache lichtgeschwindigkeit tja, so kann man sich irren! sry MFG -ICH.
Spikx My Little Pwny Registered: Jan 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 13504	30.03.2003 - 19:18 falls noch wen interessiert For ideal conditions, such as are found in interstellar space, the speeds of TNG warp factors are calculated using either of two formulae : Up to Warp 9 : V/c = WF^(10/3) Which is very similar to the Cochrane Scale. Beyond Warp 9 the formula becomes somewhat more complex. It is best approximated by : *V/c = WF^[{(10/3)+a(-Ln(10-WF))^n}+f1((WF-9)^5)+f2((WF-9)^11)]** Where a is the subspace field density, n is the electromagnetic flux, and f1 and f2 are the Cochrane refraction and reflection indexes respectively. Under ideal conditions values of a = 0.00264320, n = 2.87926700, f1 = 0.06274120 and f2 = 0.32574600 can be expected within a "normal" area of deep interstellar space. The values for TNG warp speeds under these conditions are shown below, along with travel times across typical distances : Code: TIME TO TRAVEL Warp c A B C D E F 1 1 1.3333 Sec 11.1 Hours 5.0 Years 20.0 Years 8,000.0 Years2,000,000 Years 2 10 0.1323 Sec 1.1 Hours 181.1 Days 2.0 Years 793.7 Years 198,425.1 Years 3 39 0.0342 Sec 17.1 Minutes 46.9 Days 187.5 Days 205.4 Years 51,360.1 Years 4 102 0.0131 Sec 6.6 Minutes 18.0 Days 71.9 Days 78.7 Years 19,686.3 Years 5 214 0.0062 Sec 3.1 Minutes 8.5 Days 34.2 Days 37.4 Years 9,356.9 Years 6 392 0.0034 Sec 1.7 Minutes 4.6 Days 18.6 Days 20.4 Years 5,095.6 Years 7 656 0.0020 Sec 1.0 Minutes 2.8 Days 11.1 Days 12.2 Years 3,048.2 Years 8 1,024 0.0013 Sec 39.1 Sec 1.8 Days 7.1 Days 7.8 Years 1,953.1 Years 9 1,516 0.0009 Sec 26.4 Sec 1.2 Days 4.8 Days 5.3 Years 1,318.9 Years 9.1 1,573 0.0008 Sec 25.4 Sec 1.2 Days 4.6 Days 5.1 Years 1,271.2 Years 9.2 1,649 0.0008 Sec 24.3 Sec 1.1 Days 4.4 Days 4.9 Years 1,212.9 Years 9.3 1,693 0.0008 Sec 23.6 Sec 1.1 Days 4.3 Days 4.7 Years 1,181.6 Years 9.4 1,757 0.0008 Sec 22.8 Sec 1.0 Days 4.2 Days 4.6 Years 1,138.3 Years 9.5 1,828 0.0007 Sec 21.9 Sec 24.0 Hours 4.0 Days 4.4 Years 1,093.9 Years 9.6 1,909 0.0007 Sec 21.0 Sec 23.0 Hours 3.8 Days 4.2 Years 1,047.7 Years 9.7 2,044 0.0007 Sec 19.6 Sec 21.4 Hours 3.6 Days 3.9 Years 978.5 Years 9.8 2,304 0.0006 Sec 17.4 Sec 19.0 Hours 3.2 Days 3.5 Years 868.0 Years 9.9 3,053 0.0004 Sec 13.1 Sec 14.4 Hours 2.4 Days 2.6 Years 655.1 Years 9.95 4,183 0.0003 Sec 9.6 Sec 10.5 Hours 1.7 Days 1.9 Years 478.1 Years 9.975 5,552 0.0002 Sec 7.2 Sec 7.9 Hours 1.3 Days 1.4 Years 360.2 Years 9.99 7,912 0.0002 Sec 5.1 Sec 5.5 Hours 22.2 Hours 1.0 Years 252.8 Years 9.995 10,553 0.0001 Sec 3.8 Sec 4.2 Hours 16.6 Hours 276.7 Days 189.5 Years 9.999 25,567 0.0001 Sec 1.6 Sec 1.7 Hours 6.9 Hours 114.2 Days 78.2 Years 9.9999 199,516 0.0000 Sec 0.2 Sec 13.2 Minutes 52.7 Minutes 14.6 Days 10.0 Years 10 Infinite An object at warp 10 travels at infinite speed, occupying all points in the universe simultaneously A=Earth to Moon (400,000 km) B=Across Sol System (12 billion km) C=To nearby star (5 ly) D=Across Sector (20 ly) E=Across Federation (8,000 ly) F=To Andromeda (2 million ly) Bearbeitet von am 31.03.2003, 07:36 (bitte auf die Größe achten!)
AoD aka AngelOfDeath Registered: Nov 2002 Location: St. Pölten Posts: 1482	30.03.2003 - 19:31 woher hast du das?
LTD frecher fratz Registered: Feb 2001 Location: is where it is Posts: 6334	30.03.2003 - 19:32 .............................................................. a so a schmarrn .......................................
Spikx My Little Pwny Registered: Jan 2002 Location: Scotland Posts: 13504	30.03.2003 - 19:47 nix schmarrn Daystrom Institute Technical Library www.ditl.org <- best Star Trek Tech Site evar hab i eh scho oft genug gsagt und kanns eigentlich net oft genug sagen

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