Über 150.000€ Buße für MP3s

Wenn keine Punkte ins Strafrecht fallen gibts ja überhaupt keine Freiheitsstrafen afaik.

Zitat von HaBa

Was wren denn heuer die must-see-Filme? kommt man auf 10? Und wie viele CDs sind heuer rausgekommen die man wirklich haben muss?

Das spielt hier überhaupt keine Rolle, weil das jeder anders beantworten wird.

Bin ich froh, dass ich kaum Musik von majors höre. Ich könnte denen mein Geld nicht mit gutem Gewissen in den Rachen werfen, was mich dann aber wieder rechtlich in eine prekäre Lage bringen würde

Zitat von semteX

eine hütte für 500k ist aber scho mehr als nur "stattlich", auch mit einrichtung

mit grundstück, wohlgemerkt. irgendwo muss das ding ja auch stehen. 800 m² zu je 300 euro sind schon mal schlappe 240k euro (300 euro ist ca niveau korneuburg, vgl dazu mödling mit ca 450 euro per m²...)

oops, offtopic

Deshalb schreib ich ja "major brands" => sry, aber die sind auf Kommerz aus, und bitte nicht böse sein, aber das sind halt nunmal Klingeltöne mit mehr Bass.

Sind aber bei weitem nicht alls Plattenfirmen so, allerdings: die bringen auch alle viel weniger raus bzw. verkaufen viel weniger (eben kein hype ...)


Hitparade der KW 38_07
Sendung in OE3 am Freitag, 28.09.2007, 19.00 - 22.00 Uhr

Zitat

1. 1973 BLUNT, JAMES 1 1 WARNER 4 1
2. THE QUESTION IS WHAT IS THE... SCOOTER 2 7 EDEL 6 2
3. BIG GIRLS DON'T CRY FERGIE 3 2 UNIVERSAL 11 1
4. ALLES VERLOREN BUSHIDO 4 3 SBM 5 3
5. UMBRELLA RIHANNA FEAT. JAY-Z 5 4 UNIVERSAL 17 1
6. HAMMA! CULCHA CANDELA 8 13 UNIVERSAL 6 6
7. THE WAY I ARE TIMBALAND 7 6 UNIVERSAL 11 4
8. BEAUTIFUL GIRLS KINGSTON, SEAN 17 15 SBM 3 8
9. DON'T STOP THE MUSIC RIHANNA 9 0 UNIVERSAL 2 9
10. HOW DO YOU DO? BEFOUR 6 5 UNIVERSAL 6 5
11. RELAX, TAKE IT EASY MIKA 10 8 UNIVERSAL 15 3
12. VOM SELBEN STERN ICH+ICH 14 19 UNIVERSAL 14 12
13. VAYAMOS COMPANEROS MARQUESS 11 12 WARNER 16 5
14. EIN STERN (DER DEINEN NAMEN..) D.J. OETZI & NIK P. 12 11 UNIVERSAL 33 1
15. HEY THERE DELILAH PLAIN WHITE T'S 19 24 CAPITOL 3 15
16. HOT SUMMER MONROSE 13 9 WARNER 12 1
17. ROCKSTAR NICKELBACK 18 22 EDEL 7 17
18. WHEN YOU'RE GONE LAVIGNE, AVRIL 15 10 SBM 12 10
19. AYO TECHNOLOGY 50 CENT 23 26 UNIVERSAL 3 19
NEW 20. STRICTLY PHYSICAL MONROSE 0 0 WARNER 1 20
21. DO YOU KNOW? (THE PING PONG..) IGLESIAS, ENRIQUE 20 17 UNIVERSAL 13 8
22. DEAR MR. PRESIDENT PINK 21 18 SBM 21 1
23. PRISON BREAK ANTHEM AZAD 16 16 UNIVERSAL 10 12
24. STRONGER WEST, KANYE 26 25 UNIVERSAL 6 22
25. DAS GEGENTEIL VON LIEBE SCHLOENVOIGT,JOERN 57 0 WARNER 2 25
26. LOVE IS GONE GUETTA, DAVID 33 35 CAPITOL 7 26
27. YOU CAN GET IT MEDLOCK, MARK & BOHLEN, DIETER 22 14 SBM 12 3
28. EINFACH SEIN FANTASTISCHEN VIER, DIE 24 21 SBM 17 13
29. SILENCIO BISBAL, DAVID 25 23 UNIVERSAL 13 6
NEW 30. LITTLE LITTLE LOVE BEFOUR 0 0 UNIVERSAL 1 30

Nicht böse sein, aber da fehlt bei dem einen oder anderen Song doch das Potential ein Klassiker zu werden ...


Wenn ich bei Amazon oder in Wühlkisten stöbere finde ich sehr oft Alben die ich haben will und die praktisch nichts kosten. Ich hab z.B. mal um 1 EUR "Zooropa" gekauft beim Libro, und unter 10 EUR finde ich eigentlich fast immer was wenn ich schau ...


Zu Vergleichszwecken habe ich grad meine CD-Sammlung und die Toß 100 bei Amazon verglichen => da gibts genug aktuelle Alben um 8 bis 12 EUR die interessant scheinen, und von meine CDs haben die meisten noch 220 ATS gekostet, abgesehen von dem gehypten Zeugs halt, z.B. "Schrei" von Tokio Hotel kostet 21 EUR, "ltd. edition" mit DVD 22 EUR ...


Vor allem: warum muss ich was kaufen? Du schreibst

Zitat

Wer zum teufel kann es sich wirklich leisten, hunderte cds und dvds pro monat zu kaufen? Das leben ist so teuer heute, da ist kein platz mehr für sowas.

=> ich kann es mir nicht leisten mein Geld für sowas rauszuschmeißen, vor allem aber: ich will ja die Inhalte nicht, ich lad sowas ja auch nicht runter nur um es zu haben ...

Ok da anscheinend jeder zu faul ist die Brief zu lesen poste ich ihn hier

Ich finde der Brief passt sehr gut zur aktuellen Diskussion.

[quote]
To Whom It May Concern at the CRIA:

I have been an avid music collector for many years, and have approximately 1000 CD’s in my collection, not counting albums that I have purchased over the internet and own only digital copies of. I purchase approximately 30-40 new CDs per year. However, thanks to your recent decision to block Canadian users from accessing Demonoid, I have decided that I cannot continue to support this backwards, dysfunctional industry with my money any longer, and as such, I do not plan on purchasing music ever again if it means that one penny goes to your organization.

I listen to heavy metal music, a form of music that “the industry” stopped supporting many years ago, so I have a hard time feeling any sympathy. Sites such as Demonoid have done far more to promote the music I love than your organization or the industry in general has ever done. I can find out about new artists and new releases from artists that are never promoted. I can listen to music from artists that have never been played on the radio, will never be shown on MuchMusic or MTV, and never have a review or even mention of their new album written about in the local newspaper. From listening to this music, I can make an informed decision if I wish to purchase the album or not, as I am not going to gamble $15-20 on something that I haven’t heard anything off of before.

25 years ago, I primarily learned about music from friends who dubbed a copy onto a cassette tape, where I could listen to it and make a decision if I wanted to buy the tape for myself. Now, many years removed from school, my “gang” of friends to share music with has shifted from cassette tapes and the school cafeteria to sharing mp3’s online. I listen to some things that I don’t like, and consequently, I don’t buy those albums. What I do like, I buy, or at least I used to, before your decision intended to stop me from hearing new music.

The industry cries that record sales are down, and blames this all on internet downloading. I won’t be so naïve as to say that internet downloading has no impact on the sales. Downloading has certainly stopped me from making the stupid purchases where I heard one single that I liked and bought an entire album only to find out that the rest of the songs are crap, and the CD sits collecting dust on my shelf. But for every CD that I didn’t buy based on those premises, there are 2 or 3 other CDs that I did buy because I heard of them for the first time on a site like Demonoid.

In the meantime, the music industry itself needs to recognize that they are to blame for sagging record sales. For years, they have been marketing recycled crap, and people are getting tired of it. On the odd occasion that something fresh and new accidentally slips through and gets radio play, the music industry immediately signs a seemingly infinite number of clone bands that makes the “new, fresh” sound boring almost instantly. It seems the music industry doesn’t even care about making or promoting good music any more. Instead, they market a young, pretty face that can dance provocatively and lip-synch well, and push this on the radio stations to play while getting the tabloids to print large pictures of their breasts. If bands like AC/DC or Motorhead were to emerge today, they would never be successful; not because of poor record sales due to downloading, but due to the fact that they’re ugly so the record company wouldn’t promote them, if they picked them up at all. In the meantime, they’re falling all over themselves to promote Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, or any teenage tramp that can be airbrushed to look sexy.

The record labels cry about downloading cutting into the profits of the sales of albums. They put out “greatest hits” albums by 20-year olds with 2 or 3 albums under their belts, released with one new track to try and sucker the fans that already have both albums into spending another $20 for one new song, or re-releasing a 3-month old album with a “previously unreleased bonus track”. Then they can’t understand why people aren’t buying them, and cry foul that people are downloading the one new song instead.

I know not only the record companies are crying. Artists that have been around long enough to have enough clout to get a cut of the record sales are concerned about their cut, like Metallica that also clamor that “downloading is evil”, and then go on to sell over 9 million copies of their last album instead of 9.1 million. Boo hoo. Meanwhile, many younger, smaller artists favor downloading, because they know it’s the only way that people will get to hear the music and in turn come out to see their shows, because the record label sure as hell isn’t promoting them. But they can’t say that out loud, can they? If they do, guess which band is going to get dropped by the label?

So tell me, what does the CRIA do to promote metal? Oh, right, you’ve got a link to the top 50 “metal” albums in Canada, which after a quick glance at the top ten this week includes punk acts like Dropkick Murphys, Finger Eleven, and Billy Talent, and rock acts like Nickelback and Queen, but very little that resembles heavy metal. (Perhaps you should ask the Celtic punk band, Dropkick Murphys, what they think of being labeled as “metal”.)

And also tell me, without Demonoid, where would I have found out about bands like Evile or Dublin Death Patrol and made a decision to purchase their album online (because no record store that I have found in Canada carries either one). And god forbid the CRIA would care about the promotion of Canadian talent, such as longtime recording artist Annihilator, which released one of the better albums of 2007. However, I have yet to see their new album sold in any store in Canada, including HMV’s flagship store on Yonge Street in Toronto, and I ultimately had to buy a copy from a UK website. Considering the only place I had heard about this album was having downloaded it from Demonoid, do you really expect anyone to make this kind of effort to buy an album without ever having heard it?

The record labels and CRIA have gone to great lengths to tell us that downloading and sharing music is killing the music industry. Open your eyes and you will see that the music industry dinosaur has already been killing itself for years, and by resisting technology rather than embracing it and using it to their advantage. “Oh, but they have,” you try to insist, pointing to the sites devoted to selling music in mp3 format online. I notice that most of the metal bands I am interested in are still not available through these services. I also notice that buying an entire album ends up costing as much, if not more, than if I went to buy it in the store, even though there are no longer costs of materials or shipping that have to be paid for, and once again, I fail to come up with any sympathy for the music industry. I hope the music industry does die, because I know that music itself will not die so with the corrupt aspects of the industry gone, only then might music once again flourish.

Sincerely,

A former music buyer
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Quelle: http://torrentfreak.com/an-open-let...he-cria-071004/

Die Preise sind doch human, wenn man weiß wo (das "was" spielt auch eine Rolle, aber ich gebe jetzt kein Kommentar zu "Kommerz" usw. an).

Zitat

In the meantime, they’re falling all over themselves to promote Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, or any teenage tramp that can be airbrushed to look sexy.

muhahahaaha... traumhaft

der brief trifft's echt!