Warum läßt sich grad ein 1700+ so gut übertakten?

stimmt würd mich auch mal interessieren.
und warum ist ein stepping besser als das ander??

http://www.overclockerz.net/forum/t...d=1444#post1444 das hat google bei mir ausgespuckt vieleicht findest du da antwort

ahjah, die qualität der cpu is nicht von der zahl hinterm + abhängig

wenn man des bild:

schnell rauf runter scrollt, dann siehts so aus als würden de unten am wafer näher kommen und sich wieder entfernen

i was des passt nciht zum thema - aber es is beeindruckend

Zitat von kepten

well, the processor itself doesn't know it's speed...so all processors on a wafer are the same and would ideally run at their maximum speed the transistors can handle, like e.g. 3000+

but there are usually defects scattered randomly across the wafer so some parts can not handle high frequencies and some won't even work...so you never get a 100% yield, i.e. all processors on the wafer won't work...usually semicond. companies like AMD or intel don't usually release their yield numbers...

generally the outer parts of a wafer are not as high quality as the center parts, so those processor would only make it at low speeds like lets say 1700+

so, the wafer is diced into the dies and they are tested and marked with the maximum speed they can run without making any errors, so you get everyhting from 1700+ to 3000+...
of course it happens that most of the processor on the wafer can run at highest speed, so AMD would get tons of 3000+'s from their wafers, but not everyone is willing to pay for a 3000+ so they also need some 'cheaper' ones...their slowest one is the 1700+ and it comes from the same wafer as the fastest one, which means the 1700+ has much more headroom in terms of overclocking than the already fast ones which can not go higher because of physical limitations, because the transistors won't work at higher frequencies...

this sounds like a good point, but for some kinda reason, lets say the 1800+ at certiant steppings, doesn't like high frequencys.
i totally understand your point of view but it's rather strange that, my 1800+ though DLT3C, doesnt let itself overclok that good as an 1700+

and i don't honestly think that's explainable.

sry for spelling

so ich bin verwirrt

sry für die dumme frage aber wenn DTL3C, DUT3C etc.. das stepping is, was is dann JIUHB, RIRGA, AGOIA etc...

wie weit eine cpu geht scheint ja auch davon abzuhängen...

sry wirklich dumm

ja stimmt schon, trotzdem gehen die fast gleich weit