AMD Brisbane
JC 15.12.2006 - 09:50 1462 8
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Preview @ AnandTechWith both cores under load for 15 minutes (calculating Fast Fourier Transforms) the 65nm 5000+ manages to produce just about as much heat as the X2 3800+ EE SFF. While this won't always be the case, it gives you an idea of the reduction in temperatures you can expect from AMD's new 65nm chips.
What about overclockability? We were unfortunately not able to get that much more out of the new 65nm core as we could from mature 90nm chips. Our X2 5000+ was able to run at 2.925GHz, at 1.475V with stock air cooling. If equipped with better air cooling or something more exotic, reaching over 3GHz shouldn't be a problem, but we wouldn't expect to see anything too far over 3GHz.
Overall we're left with mixed feelings after playing with AMD's first 65nm chips. Power consumption is definitely reduced compared to its 90nm offerings; in our tests we saw an average reduction in total system power consumption of 14.6W thanks to the new Brisbane core. Along with the lower power draw comes lower temperatures, which is also good. For no additional cost, and given that it should help alleviate AMD's capacity constraints thanks to a smaller die, there's nothing to complain about on that front.
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Leider wirds noch eine Weile dauern bis die bei uns zu kaufen sind. Muss daweil mit einem 4200+ EE vorlieb nehmen, aber der geringere Stromverbrauch hört sich gut an.
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JC
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Nett, ich denke ich muss mir dann doch einen 65nm zulegen EDIT: 2.6GHz@1.1V Das wird nett.
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anandtech war auch schon mal besser ... die stehn wohl eher am HTT Bus an und nicht bei der CPU. ist ja bekannt (oder sollte sein), dass man den HT multi senken muß damit was geht.
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Quick Look @ Tech ReportAMD has consistently touted its model of continuous improvement for chip fabrication techniques, and that model has served it well in the recent past. The products of a well-refined 90nm process have more or less held their own on power efficiency against 65nm processors from Intel, except for at the very high end. Chips produced with AMD's special low-power 90nm process tweaks, like the Energy Efficient 3800+ and 4600+ we tested, have been especially impressive. The flip side of that coin is that AMD's move from 90nm to 65nm does not instantly produce huge improvements in energy efficiency or clock frequency headroom. Instead, the 65nm transition brings a welcome but incremental improvement in power consumption over current Athlon 64 X2 products and little or no additional headroom. If you're looking to by an Athlon 64 X2, then I'd definitely try to grab the 65nm version, but don't expect miracles from it.
AMD will no doubt continue its trajectory of gradual improvement to its process tech, leading to additional power savings and headroom at 65nm in the future. For now, though, making it over this hurdle isn't nearly enough to overcome the sizeable performance gap between the Core 2 Duo and Athlon 64 X2—and it does very little to counter the formidable presence of Intel's quad-core Core 2 Extreme QX6700, which is coming in lower-power, lower-cost Core 2 Quad form soon.
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AMD's 65nm Preview Part 2 @ AnandTechNow that the pieces are falling into place we are able to understand a bit more about the implications of AMD's move to 65nm. It's clear that these first 65nm chips, while lower power than their 90nm counterparts, aren't very good even by AMD's standards. Already weighing in at the high end of the voltage spectrum, we hope to see more overclockable, lower power offerings once AMD's 65nm ramp really starts up. It's a constantly evolving process and if this is the worst we will see, it's not terrible; AMD can only go up from here, but it does mean that you shouldn't hold your breath waiting for the right 65nm AMD to come along.
Performance and efficiency are still both Intel's fortes thanks to its Core 2 lineup, and honestly the only reason to consider Brisbane is if you currently have a Socket-AM2 motherboard. It is worth mentioning that AMD still has the lowest overall power use with its Athlon 64 X2 EE SFF processor, but in terms of performance per watt efficiency it's not all that great. We would really like to see an EE SFF successor built on AMD's 65nm process, but we have a feeling it will be a little while before we are graced with such a delicate creature.
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AnandTech Review Part 2 updated Updated: AMD has given us the official confirmation that L2 cache latencies have increased, and that it purposefully did so in order to allow for the possibility of moving to larger cache sizes in future parts. AMD stressed that this wasn't a pre-announcement of larger cache parts to come, but rather a preparation should the need be there to move to a vastly larger L2. Thankfully the performance delta isn't huge, at least in the benchmarks that we saw, so AMD's decision isn't too painful - especially as it comes with the benefit of a cooler running core that draws less power; ideally we'd like the best of all worlds but we'll take what we can get. Note that none of AMD's current roadmaps show any larger L2 parts (other than the usual 2x1MB offerings), which tells us one of two things: either AMD has some larger L2 parts that it's planning on releasing or AMD is being completely honest with the public in saying that the larger L2 parts will only be released if necessary.
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stevke
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Sehr interessant, aber mehr L2-Cache bringt bei der K8-Architektur ja eh nicht wirklich was, auch wegen dem relativ großen L1-Cache.
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