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“Avatar is the single most complex piece of filmmaking ever made. We have 1,600 shots for a 2.5-hour movie."

“A given frame on Avatar might take up to 50-100 hours to render"

"The king of action is claiming he's created "the mother of all battles." In photo-realistic 3D."

“It’s Pocahontas, Dances With Wolves, that sort of thing, but a story that takes place on another planet, with a completely different type of culture."

Avatar has taken twice as long as Titanic to make, which is arguably one of the most technically complex films of our lifetime.

(20 Things We Now Know About Avatar)



James Cameron Previews 24 Minutes of Avatar!
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I've just returned from a preview screening of James Cameron's hugely anticipated movie "Avatar" at the Cinema Expo in Amsterdam and I'm still feeling the after effects of this jaw-dropping experience. First off, I'm really not a fan of the so called 3-D craze, that's currently taking Hollywood by storm. Before the "Avatar" screening, Fox showed us "Ice Age 3" in 3-D and although the movie is pretty entertaining, I don't understand why it has to be in 3-D. What is the added benefit? I just got a headache from the whole experience. For some reason or another, my eyes just can't get used to the 3-D experience. With it comes the fact that 3-D until now has been used as a gimmick.

Would "Avatar" change my mind? With anticipation I directed my attention to the 20th Century Fox show reel. After some pretty disappointing clips from other movies like "Gulliver's Travels" you could feel the tension in the theater. Then it appeared on the screen: AVATAR. After a brief introduction from cast members Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Stephen Lang and Sigourney Weaver, we were asked to put on the 3-D glasses (really uncomfortable, especially if you already wear a pair). Most of the scenes were from the first half of the movie.

In the first scene we see Sam Worthington's crippled ex-marine Jake Sully, who just arrived on the planet 'Pandora.' He's in a wheelchair and just rolled in to hear Colonel Quaritch, played by the impressive Stephen Lang, talk to the troops. He's giving a classic speech that every military leader gives at the beginning of a battle. Jake listens as an outsider to this speech. A melancholic smile appears on his face. Although the scene is in 3-D, I haven't really noticed it. Finally a director who doesn't feel the need to stick it in the audience's face with cheap tricks like pointing objects at the camera.

In the second scene Sigourney Weaver's Dr. Grace Augustine explains to Jake how the process of transporting your mind into an Avatar works. Although the scene is mostly exposition, we've got a good look at the lab and more importantly we get a first glimpse of the Avatars, the Na'Vi lookalikes. These tall blue creatures lie in water tanks, waiting for their human to 'jump' in their bodies. Beside Weaver and Worthington, the scene introduces Joel Moore's character Norm Spellman. As is usually the case with Moore, his character is the comic relief.

It's the third scene where my heart begins to pound like crazy. Jake and Norm will inhabit their Avatar for the first time. They enter some sort of capsule and - flash – their mind enters the blue creatures, now lying on hospital tables. And not before long Avatar Jake wakes up. And it took my breath away. I thought--just like you guys--that I've seen it all with Gollum, or The Hulk, but Cameron has done it again. These creatures seem so real, that within minutes you forget you're watching a enormous and very blue CGI character. Even the eyes are totally convincing. The characters have real personalities and a soul.

In the fourth scene the Avatars of Jake, Norm and Grace explore the jungle of Pandora. The surroundings remind me of a planet that appears briefly in "Revenge of the Sith." A lot of massive colorful flowers and plants grow everywhere. Jake's unbridled enthusiasm works on Grace's nerves. And not before long they have their first confrontation with some creatures. Some sort of rhino with a flower sticking out of his head looks like he will kill Jake, but he's not scared and he let's out a scream. The 'rhino' runs away, but not because of Jake. A more dangerous creature – a wolf? – jumps at Jake from behind.

In the next couple of scenes Jake meets Na'Vi Neytiri (Zoe Saldana). Jake finds himself alone at night in the jungle with only a torch as protection against some evil looking dogs. Eager to fight them, Jake says: 'What are you waiting for?' When one of the 'dogs' attacks him he slams the torch in the creature's face. A fight ensues that Jake can't win by himself. Lucky for him, there's Neytiri who with her trusty bow and arrow helps Jake chase away the creatures. Just when Jake wants to offer his gratitude, Neytiri knocks his reached out hand away and says to Jake that killing these creatures is a bad thing. When the scene fades out to black, my mind begins to work overtime. How the hell is it possible that I never once felt like I've been watching a movie where almost everything comes out of a computer?

The most beautiful scene follows directly after the one I've described above. When Jake wants to take his torch with him, Neytiri takes it from him and throws it in the river. Like magic the flowers and plants – even the grassy soil - begin to glow in the night. The beauty completely takes my breath away. Meanwhile we get to learn more about Neytiri and her people. Everybody who knows the story of Native American Pocahontas and John Smith, will recognize a lot of similarities. Before you can sing "Colors of the Wind," Neytiri guides Jake through her world. Mysterious flowing and glowing seeds from a mystic tree appear out of nowhere. To Neytiri's surprise Jake attracts them. She has a look in her eyes like he's the 'chosen one.' And of course she's right. Jake has to lead the Na'Vi into battle against the massive army of Colonel Quaritch.

In the next scene we meet the Banshees. The Na'Vi ride these fierce looking creatures when they hunt. After some exposition, where Neytiri explains to Jake that a Banshee first has to respect you, before you can ride it, she takes flight and another gorgeous scene unspools.

The last scene wasn't completed. What we saw, was sort of a video-game version of the mother of all battles. Countless numbers of Na'Vi riding their Banshees attack Quaritch's fleet. I can't wait to see the battle fully rendered.

Overall I was really impressed by what I saw. The effects are in a league of their own. The story is pretty predictable, but this never gets to point where it becomes annoying. After some disappointing or even pointless 3-D movies, "Avatar" maybe the first movie where 3-D is properly utilized.



omg und es dauert noch so lang bis der film bei uns läuft :bash:
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Nico

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eigentlich möcht ich so wenig wie möglich über den film wissen bevor ich ihn seh ;)

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da hast du eigentlich recht. habs mal besser unter spoiler-tags gesetzt.

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endlich wieder mal sci fi auf die man gespannt sein kann

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nachdem der erste 3d-probelauf mit ice age durchaus gelungen ist, kann ich meine skepsis gegenüber avatar endlich aus dem fenster werfen und mich auf den film freuen ;)

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genau drei worte:

*fap fap fap*

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Avatar auf der Comic-Con!

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James Cameron is going to screen some footage from Avatar for the people who are lucky enough to make it to this event. If you are at Comic-Con this year, and you can get in, GET IN. This is far and away the most important/exciting/awesome/anticipated/incredible thing going down at Comic-Con, and it happens on the first day, Thursday, July 23rd. Get in line early, and bring water and food, ‘cause you’ll be there for a long time. But from everything people have said (and really important people, too: the likes of Steven Soderbergh and Steven Spielberg, to name a couple) Avatar could revolutionize the future of filmmaking. Being a witness to the making of history is something not every Comic-Con can lay claim to.

Quelle: spike.com


ab morgen gibt es also hoffentlich die ersten bewegten bilder zu sehen.

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ein paar stimmen von der comic-con:
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Honestly, I’ve never had a picture of this movie in my head. The plot has been vague, the details minimal… so I’ve only ever hoped to see a fun, kick-ass James Cameron movie. On that level, I’m positive the eye-candy will be there for me come December. But I will say lower those expectations. The footage was good, layered, incredibly detailed and full of imagination and incredible imagery, but I wouldn’t go so far as to say it’s the next quantum leap forward in filmmaking. However there's no doubt Cameron's pushing the limits. Just don't expect to have your head blown out your a**hole or eyeballs r*ped or whatever the newest talkback thing is.

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"We have a kind of big announcement today," Cameron said. "We're going to take over as many IMAX and 3d theaters on August 21st as we can get our hands on and let a global audience get a look at 15 minutes of Avatar for free." The audience cheered.
von einem trailer wurde leider nichts gesagt, scheinbar gibt es einfach so 15min footage zu sehen.


im großen und ganzen sind die CGI-effekte also nach wie vor als solche zu erkennen. der hype hat uns eine revolution versprochen, doch viele sprechen, jetzt, nach der vorführung, """nur""" (3fach unter anführungsstriche) von einer evolution, was nichts heißen soll. die effekte sind extrem komplex, perfekt ausgeführt und wirken sehr natürlich. vorallem die gesichtsanimationen der CG-charaktere sollen wirklich beeindruckend sein. von fotorealismus kann man jedoch nicht sprechen, dafür sieht manches etwas zu comic-haft aus. gelobt wurden ebenfalls die natürlichen kamerabewegungen in CG-shots. cameron meinte es wurde bei jeder einstellung versucht die illusion zu erzeugen, ein mensch würde die kamera halten, damit die shots realistischer wirken.
unterm strich stellt avatar zwar die nächste evolutionsstufe von CG-effekten dar, dennoch sollte man seine erwartungen etwas nach unten schrauben. da in einem cameron-film jedoch immer die charaktere und die story VOR den effekten kamen, mache ich mir überhaupt keine sorgen.

meine vorfreude befindet sich also nach wie vor auf unendlichen höhen, da james cameron für mich einfach DER regisseur schlecht hin ist.
ich freu mich auf den 21.august :)
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Zitat von blood
meine vorfreude befindet sich also nach wie vor auf unendlichen höhen, da james cameron für mich einfach DER regisseur schlecht hin ist.
ich freu mich auf den 21.august :)

ich denke auch dass die qualität der cgi zweitrangig ist.
viel interessanter ist was cameron aus einem film macht, bei dem er nicht von lächerlichen details (wie zb der realität) gebremst wird :D

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technische perfektion ist auf jedenfall zu erwarten wenn james cameron im spiel ist. dass er auch sonst einen guten geschmack bzw instinkt für richtige entscheidungen hat steht ebenfalls außer frage. fehlt eigentlich nur noch eine story die das persönliche interesse weckt - dann sollte alles passen :)

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angeblich ein "der mit dem wolf tanzt" auf einem fremden planeten ^^

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Zoe Saldana und Sam Worthington :o


btw ich bin sehr erstaunt, dass trotz der 24min vorführung auf der comic-con NICHTS nach außen gelangt ist. kein video, nicht mal ein einziges foto. die haben wahrscheinlich jedes foto-handy eingesammelt ^^
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very nice :)

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knapp fünf tage noch bis zum ersten teaser trailer :D
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