UPC digital base channels over DVB-C

soprano

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Registered: Feb 2010
Location: Vienna
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15.02.2010 - 14:21

Hello,

forgive me for writing in English, unfortunately my German is still not good enough.

I live in Vienna and I just purchased a Sony Bravia television which has integrated DVB-C and DVB-T decoders. I've a chello subscription via UPC, with no TV option (only internet).

Here are my questions:

- I receive the analogue Austrian free channels (ORF, ATV etc.) through the UPC cable, but I cannot see them through the digital receiver (DVB-C). I see the programs list and guide, but all the channels are black. Shouldn't the free Austrian channels be available through digital too? Should I buy a card or something to receive them?

- Is it possible to connect both the UPC cable and an external antenna (for DVB-T) to the television ?

Thanks, and a nice day to everybody.

Soprano

userohnenamen

leider kein name

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15.02.2010 - 14:28

Hi,

if you would like to use digital cable you have to pay a monthly fee to UPC und use their own DVB-C Receiver. (you can't use the DVB-C Receiver thats built-in in your bravia)

at least you would need this: http://www.upc.at/tv/dtv_start/

hth

Castlestabler

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Location: Wien
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15.02.2010 - 14:31

For the digital Television of UPC you need their smartcard, which you only get if you have the appropriate subscription from UPC.

But even then it is not possible to watch digital Television without their Box.
So there is no way to get digital Television the way you want to use it.

For more Information there is a thread named Was neues bei UPC-Digital.

maniacnew

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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Wien 20, Linz
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15.02.2010 - 14:31

you receive the free channels because the upc cable is an antenna.

you can't receive anything over dvb-c unless you have a parabol antenna with lnb

Castlestabler

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15.02.2010 - 14:38

Zitat von maniacnew
you receive the free channels because the upc cable is an antenna.

you can't receive anything over dvb-c unless you have a parabol antenna with lnb

1.UPC has a filter which enables the austrian programs, also when you do not pay for them.

2. Then you would be able to receive DVB-S but not DVB-C.

soprano

Bloody Newbie

Registered: Feb 2010
Location: Vienna
Posts: 5

15.02.2010 - 14:44

Thanks everybody for the fast answers.

When I bought the TV at mediamarkt, the guy explicitly told me that the integrated DVB-C decoder would have worked with UPC-Wien. Indeed the scanner finds all the UPC channels and shows the UPC guide. I therefore was thinking that I may have had the chance to watch the Austrian free channels through UPC.

So it wouldn't neither work with a paying UPC subscription? Why that, do they use a particular encryption ?

All this wondering is because I heard that analogue TV will be shut down soon, don't know how much is true.

Castlestabler

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15.02.2010 - 14:47

If you subscribe you wold get a set top box, which enables the ability to watch the digital channels.

And yes, it has something to do with their encryption, it is simple not possible and the information was simply incorrect.

ferry32

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15.02.2010 - 14:52

hello soprano!

there`s (since end of 2007) no way to receive upc digital television with a built in (or free available stand alone) dvb-c receiver. you have to subscribe to upc digital television, if you want to get this product. after that a set top computer with a special smart card will be given to you.

don`t worry, analogue ctv won`t be shut down within the next years.

bye,
ferry32

edit:

for further information to upc digital television join us here

Bearbeitet von ferry32 am 15.02.2010, 14:57

soprano

Bloody Newbie

Registered: Feb 2010
Location: Vienna
Posts: 5

15.02.2010 - 15:16

Thanks everybody again.

A colleague told me he's receiving digital-cable with integrated dvb-c, but I later discovered he's watching cable-tv from another company in NÖ, not UPC.

By the way, will they add Sky to the UPC bouquet? In that case I may consider subscribing it...

ciao, Soprano

maniacnew

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15.02.2010 - 15:28

Zitat von Castlestabler
1.UPC has a filter which enables the austrian programs, also when you do not pay for them.

2. Then you would be able to receive DVB-S but not DVB-C.

ah danke da hab ich mich wohl verlesen im 1. post ... und zum ersten, wenn man bei der hausantenne ansteckt kann man die ja auch als dvb-t antenne benutzen oder ? oder meinst du man braucht nichtmal nen dvb-t tuner dazu ?

master blue

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Registered: Oct 2000
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15.02.2010 - 15:33

Zitat von maniacnew
ah danke da hab ich mich wohl verlesen im 1. post ... und zum ersten, wenn man bei der hausantenne ansteckt kann man die ja auch als dvb-t antenne benutzen oder ? oder meinst du man braucht nichtmal nen dvb-t tuner dazu ?

nein, kein dvb-t tuner notwendig. kommt ja schon analog rein.

Viper780

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Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Wien
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15.02.2010 - 15:39

Zitat von soprano
Thanks everybody again.

A colleague told me he's receiving digital-cable with integrated dvb-c, but I later discovered he's watching cable-tv from another company in NÖ, not UPC.

By the way, will they add Sky to the UPC bouquet? In that case I may consider subscribing it...

ciao, Soprano

yes there will be sky with UPC but the UPC SEt Top Box is very crappy and the HDTV Box with skyHD is to expensive to recommend.

Is there no possibility that you can install a Satellite antenna?

soprano

Bloody Newbie

Registered: Feb 2010
Location: Vienna
Posts: 5

15.02.2010 - 15:46

Zitat von Viper780
Is there no possibility that you can install a Satellite antenna?

I hardly think that I'd be allowed to install a sat Antenna to the house facade, as I live at the second floor in a corner flat (it would be *really* too much visible). Some families at the ground floor placed few antennas though, so I may give it a try with the Hausverwaltung.

Viper780

Er ist tot, Jim!

Registered: Mar 2001
Location: Wien
Posts: 50130

15.02.2010 - 16:07

give a try, maybe tehere are Antenna on the roof.

otherwise there are "nice" Flat Antenna like http://geizhals.at/eu/a343734.html or http://geizhals.at/eu/a403337.html there are such produkts vorm Strong, Clarktech or Maximum

soprano

Bloody Newbie

Registered: Feb 2010
Location: Vienna
Posts: 5

15.02.2010 - 16:11

Zitat von Viper780
give a try, maybe tehere are Antenna on the roof.

otherwise there are "nice" Flat Antenna like http://geizhals.at/eu/a343734.html or http://geizhals.at/eu/a403337.html there are such produkts vorm Strong, Clarktech or Maximum

Wow I didn't know about those Antennas... thanks! I'll definitely give it a try.

soprano Bloody Newbie Registered: Feb 2010 Location: Vienna Posts: 5	15.02.2010 - 14:21 Hello, forgive me for writing in English, unfortunately my German is still not good enough. I live in Vienna and I just purchased a Sony Bravia television which has integrated DVB-C and DVB-T decoders. I've a chello subscription via UPC, with no TV option (only internet). Here are my questions: - I receive the analogue Austrian free channels (ORF, ATV etc.) through the UPC cable, but I cannot see them through the digital receiver (DVB-C). I see the programs list and guide, but all the channels are black. Shouldn't the free Austrian channels be available through digital too? Should I buy a card or something to receive them? - Is it possible to connect both the UPC cable and an external antenna (for DVB-T) to the television ? Thanks, and a nice day to everybody. Soprano
userohnenamen leider kein name Registered: Feb 2004 Location: - Posts: 15859	15.02.2010 - 14:28 Hi, if you would like to use digital cable you have to pay a monthly fee to UPC und use their own DVB-C Receiver. (you can't use the DVB-C Receiver thats built-in in your bravia) at least you would need this: http://www.upc.at/tv/dtv_start/ hth
Castlestabler Here to stay Registered: Aug 2002 Location: Wien Posts: 3776	15.02.2010 - 14:31 For the digital Television of UPC you need their smartcard, which you only get if you have the appropriate subscription from UPC. But even then it is not possible to watch digital Television without their Box. So there is no way to get digital Television the way you want to use it. For more Information there is a thread named Was neues bei UPC-Digital.
maniacnew OC Addicted Registered: Jul 2004 Location: Wien 20, Linz Posts: 2092	15.02.2010 - 14:31 you receive the free channels because the upc cable is an antenna. you can't receive anything over dvb-c unless you have a parabol antenna with lnb
Castlestabler Here to stay Registered: Aug 2002 Location: Wien Posts: 3776	15.02.2010 - 14:38 Zitat von maniacnew you receive the free channels because the upc cable is an antenna. you can't receive anything over dvb-c unless you have a parabol antenna with lnb 1.UPC has a filter which enables the austrian programs, also when you do not pay for them. 2. Then you would be able to receive DVB-S but not DVB-C.
soprano Bloody Newbie Registered: Feb 2010 Location: Vienna Posts: 5	15.02.2010 - 14:44 Thanks everybody for the fast answers. When I bought the TV at mediamarkt, the guy explicitly told me that the integrated DVB-C decoder would have worked with UPC-Wien. Indeed the scanner finds all the UPC channels and shows the UPC guide. I therefore was thinking that I may have had the chance to watch the Austrian free channels through UPC. So it wouldn't neither work with a paying UPC subscription? Why that, do they use a particular encryption ? All this wondering is because I heard that analogue TV will be shut down soon, don't know how much is true.
Castlestabler Here to stay Registered: Aug 2002 Location: Wien Posts: 3776	15.02.2010 - 14:47 If you subscribe you wold get a set top box, which enables the ability to watch the digital channels. And yes, it has something to do with their encryption, it is simple not possible and the information was simply incorrect.
ferry32 OC Addicted Registered: Jun 2009 Location: Wien 21 Posts: 683	15.02.2010 - 14:52 hello soprano! there`s (since end of 2007) no way to receive upc digital television with a built in (or free available stand alone) dvb-c receiver. you have to subscribe to upc digital television, if you want to get this product. after that a set top computer with a special smart card will be given to you. don`t worry, analogue ctv won`t be shut down within the next years. bye, ferry32 edit: for further information to upc digital television join us here Bearbeitet von ferry32 am 15.02.2010, 14:57
soprano Bloody Newbie Registered: Feb 2010 Location: Vienna Posts: 5	15.02.2010 - 15:16 Thanks everybody again. A colleague told me he's receiving digital-cable with integrated dvb-c, but I later discovered he's watching cable-tv from another company in NÖ, not UPC. By the way, will they add Sky to the UPC bouquet? In that case I may consider subscribing it... ciao, Soprano
maniacnew OC Addicted Registered: Jul 2004 Location: Wien 20, Linz Posts: 2092	15.02.2010 - 15:28 Zitat von Castlestabler 1.UPC has a filter which enables the austrian programs, also when you do not pay for them. 2. Then you would be able to receive DVB-S but not DVB-C. ah danke da hab ich mich wohl verlesen im 1. post ... und zum ersten, wenn man bei der hausantenne ansteckt kann man die ja auch als dvb-t antenne benutzen oder ? oder meinst du man braucht nichtmal nen dvb-t tuner dazu ?
master blue Mr. Anderson Registered: Oct 2000 Location: 2340, 2352, 1200 Posts: 8581	15.02.2010 - 15:33 Zitat von maniacnew ah danke da hab ich mich wohl verlesen im 1. post ... und zum ersten, wenn man bei der hausantenne ansteckt kann man die ja auch als dvb-t antenne benutzen oder ? oder meinst du man braucht nichtmal nen dvb-t tuner dazu ? nein, kein dvb-t tuner notwendig. kommt ja schon analog rein.
Viper780 Er ist tot, Jim! Registered: Mar 2001 Location: Wien Posts: 50130	15.02.2010 - 15:39 Zitat von soprano Thanks everybody again. A colleague told me he's receiving digital-cable with integrated dvb-c, but I later discovered he's watching cable-tv from another company in NÖ, not UPC. By the way, will they add Sky to the UPC bouquet? In that case I may consider subscribing it... ciao, Soprano yes there will be sky with UPC but the UPC SEt Top Box is very crappy and the HDTV Box with skyHD is to expensive to recommend. Is there no possibility that you can install a Satellite antenna?
soprano Bloody Newbie Registered: Feb 2010 Location: Vienna Posts: 5	15.02.2010 - 15:46 Zitat von Viper780 Is there no possibility that you can install a Satellite antenna? I hardly think that I'd be allowed to install a sat Antenna to the house facade, as I live at the second floor in a corner flat (it would be really too much visible). Some families at the ground floor placed few antennas though, so I may give it a try with the Hausverwaltung.
Viper780 Er ist tot, Jim! Registered: Mar 2001 Location: Wien Posts: 50130	15.02.2010 - 16:07 give a try, maybe tehere are Antenna on the roof. otherwise there are "nice" Flat Antenna like http://geizhals.at/eu/a343734.html or http://geizhals.at/eu/a403337.html there are such produkts vorm Strong, Clarktech or Maximum
soprano Bloody Newbie Registered: Feb 2010 Location: Vienna Posts: 5	15.02.2010 - 16:11 Zitat von Viper780 give a try, maybe tehere are Antenna on the roof. otherwise there are "nice" Flat Antenna like http://geizhals.at/eu/a343734.html or http://geizhals.at/eu/a403337.html there are such produkts vorm Strong, Clarktech or Maximum Wow I didn't know about those Antennas... thanks! I'll definitely give it a try.

UPC digital base channels over DVB-C

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