Welche Graka soll ich ma kaufen?

hab noch a kurze frage

was is da unterschied zwischen
gf2 mx, gts, pro,und ultra

das ganze hat alleridings auch einen hohen preis: die kryo hat im moment eine ******* Bildquallität die mir persönlcih wichtiger ist als 200fps statt 170fps!!!

mal schaun was dann wirklich rauskommt, aber der jetzige stand ist echt mieß!!!

gegenüber soclhen spekulationen bin ich immer etwas skeptisch ... wart lieber erst ab bis es sowas wirklich gibt ...

GF2 ?
GF3 ?
Ich kauf mir sicher keine Graka die mehr kostet als meine CPU .
Und wenn ich mit meiner 1er TNT sogar noch fast alles flüssig spielen kann.. dan ist ne Geforce1 wohl doch mehr als genug .
KyroII werd ich mir bald zulegen. Ist meiner Meinung nach eine Tracktor Graka - geht net ein egal wieviel dranhängt - in kombi mit einem 1,3Ghz also optimal.

ja, große updates sind besser, vor allem wenn die geforce3 sich etabliert wrd alles andere noch billiger. wart rühig...

Hi !

Hab einen tollen Thread(lieder nicht von mir) auf www.amdmb.com gefunden.


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As everybody knows I'm a Voodoo guy from way back. I started with the Banshee AGP cards (still own 2 of these) and then went to the power hungry Voodoo3 3000 AGP card w/TV out. Hey at the time I could get that baby to hang with any TnT/Geforce card on the market and as far as ATI goes well they weren't even an option. Of course the main reason I ran the Voodoo with the who do was GLIDE. I played, and still do, Unreal, Nascar2/3 then UT and nobody could top a Voodoo for image quality and performance in these games. As with anything in life things change. We all have gone from systems that were running K6-2's/PII's/Celery's to well for the sake of where my loyalty is Athlons/T-birds/Durons. And during this time we have all watched the video card battle with much delight I must say. Unfortunately during this battle 3dfx found themselves caught between technology, performance and the ability to deliver a product that could compete. Nvidia on the other hand was cranking out the GeForce2 GTS cards and we all were amazed at the frame rates they could produce. Then the final nail in the coffin for 3dfx was when Nvidia just bought them out. Bam, game over no more competition. No more battles to see who would be the best. And in my opinion no more competition to drive prices down and development of newer technologies.

Well I'm happy to say that this hasn't been the case Nvidia has pushed on and hopefully has included some of 3dfx's good points to there upcoming NV20/GeForce3 cards. But this isn't why I sitting here writing this essay. You see I just built a system for one of the guys in my gaming clan (Bigdaddy Red). He has been running an Elsa Geforce2 MX for a couple months now and well if he was upping the platform then he wanted a better card. After kicking around the offerings at hand and due to the fact that he wanted it NOW our options were limited. First there was the Voodoo5 5500 AGP for $99 at Comp-USA. A good price for a card that just wasn’t what it was supposed to be and whose manufacturer is OUT OF BUSINESS. Then there is the NEW Geforce2 MX 64meg card for $149. Seems to me this shouldn’t even be in the running. A 3D Blaster Geforce2 GTS 32meg card for $249 (small computer shop and a bit proud of their stock). Oh they also had an Ultra for only $600. So we took a ride to see what we could see. As usual Comp-USA didn’t have the items in stock like they said. So as we browsed and discussed our options we noticed the Radeon 64meg DDR/VIVO sitting on the shelf. For about 10 minutes we kicked it around and decided what the hell lets get it. I had read a lot of good things about the cards but they don’t have the blazing frame rates of the Geforce2’s.

Well my first impression was “Looks like every other card”. From here things get interesting. I downloaded the latest non-supported driver from the ATI website and installed DirectX 8.0a. By the way we are working with a fresh install of Win98se. So far so good. Windows came up and showed that we had NEW hardware. So I pointed windows to the correct location of the driver and when finished rebooted. Holding my breath everything went fine. We went to the desktop and setup our preferences. I noticed that the colors looked good but hey we were just in UGLY mode so a RAGE-Pro would look good at this point. When we saw that everything was in working order time to put the baby thru the paces.


At this point I guess I should tell you what platform we are trying to get this thing to run on. The system specs are as follows:

K7V-T (Bios 1008t01c)
750mhz Slot-A T-Bird @ 1007mhz via Northwind GFD rev. 2
Vos-32 w/dual YS tech fans. Modified to allow use of 2 sticks of memory
1 – 128megs pc100 Micron cache 2 memory running SPD(first pass only)
2 x 128meg pc133 Viking memory running SPD
Maxtor 10GB Hard drive 5400rpm
Radeon 64meg DDR VIVO
Sound Blaster PCI sound card
Netgear PCI 10/100 nic
Mid Tower case w/AMD approved 300w PSU
1 – 80mm Sunon HO Exhaust fan

The Radeon seem to hold it’s own at the higher resolutions. Now on to something that we can really relate to Unreal Tournament!!!!

We are running UT at the gamer’s resolution of 800x600 32bit color with everything set too high. For most of my testing I run DM-Curse][ due to the fact that it’s a good level and you can generate some high frame rates on this level. At this resolution playing an entire level of 10 frags and with 5 bots the card averaged 96.05FPS. Not as high as the Geforce2 is supposed to run but it is very playable. So lets see what this baby can do. After setting our gaming resolution to 1600x1200, 32bit color w/4x Anti-aliasing we could average 78fps and can you say SWEET!!! This is absolutely amazing. The detail, color and it all runs so smooth it is hard to believe that I can actually play as if I were running at 640x480 16bit color. Unlike the GeForce cards (that I have seen) the Radeon doesn’t have the wild swing of frame rates when you get into a heavy fire fight with 2-5 other players. It just flows the images on the monitor and you just can’t believe how nice this is. This in its self is well worth the price of the card. So what next? How about loading up Serious Sam and playing awhile. For those of us that are playing with video cards that just do make the grade “We ARE missing the BOAT!!!”. Once again the detail of this game is stunning and runs smooth as silk at the higher resolution of 1600x1200 32bit color. At this point how could I ever go back to playing at 800x600 16bit color? I would have to say for $200 give or take a few bucks the ATI Radeon 64meg DDR video card is a real sweet card. If you want bragging rights for high fps at 640x480 32/16bit color this isn’t the card for you. If you want to be amazed at the depth of color, textures, details, smoothness of play, well, this is the card for you no doubt about it.

ATI is headed in the right direction with the Radeon. The image quality is unsurpassed and there high-end stability is ROCK SOLID. I was also worried about incompatibility with the VIA chipset but from what I saw it was the smoothest install of a video card I have seen. We did try to O/C it a bit with a power strip but with absolutely no luck. If the after-market supported ATI products like they do the Geforce2’s the Radeon would be even better and faster. Only time will tell but currently the Radeon supports more DirectX 8 features then any other card on the market. Yes this is a card ahead of its time but I don’t think it will go the way of the Edsel. It has the potential to become a leader in the market but only time will tell. From what I’m told ATI is currently working on the next generation Radeon cards and are slated for release sometime after the GeForce3’s hit the market. The target cost of the card is around $279-$299 as opposed to $525 - $600 for the NV-20/GeForce3. Guess the only thing to do is wait and see.

http://www.amdmb.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=29082

direkt gibt es auch einige screenshots.

bye

dime

[ 19 April 2001: Message edited by: dime2 ]