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[E3] more Parhelia info

JC 23.05.2002 - 09:48 915 7
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I'm not going to give any guesses on performance , as the boards I played on this morning are beta. However here's what I got from my meeting (excluding anything that might be considered um off the record)
  1. Displacement mapping absolutely rocks . Adding arbitrary geometry to figures or in outdoors terrain is a serious step in the right direction.
  2. FAA absolutely also rocks. Swimming textures in buildings in FS 2002? GONE.
  3. 10bit color was a little bit of a disappointment. Because the LCD monitors that were used in the demo, it downsampled to 8bit color. While there is a difference in banding, it was less apparent than I expected. When I test the card with 3 CRTs I'll take a deeper look into it.
  4. It will not be a Quake3 Geforce4 Ti killer with the way most reviewers run the benchmarks. Of course with 80 million transistors on a .15um process, there's likely to be a lot of heat, and it's unlikely that the Parhelia 512 will have a more than 300mhz gclock.
  5. Having said that, Matrox suggests, and I agree with them 100% that performance in Quake3 is fast enough today. Turn on FSAA (games with stencil buffers have issues with FAA) anisotropic filtering and Surround Gaming , and it should be completely playable
  6. Surround gaming absolutely rocks. I got to play Quake3 and on 3 monitors it was absoletly smooth. One little note, while playing , I didn't consciously look to my right or left, but in my peripheral vision caught movement on the extra monitors and I was able to react without thinking
  7. Matrox suggests, and after walking around the show floor, I agree, that DX 8 games will be more prevalent this Christmas. The number of DX9 games will be very limited if any at all. Thus their decision to go with DX8.1
  8. If you have a chance and are at E3 go to the AMD/Matrox/Alienware lot (last year's G.O.D) lot , take it. Soldier Of Fortune II and F1 2002 makes great use of surround gaming . The HUGE monitors for the racing game are the way to play a racing game.
  9. Parhelia 512 can multipass render . 8 textures per pixel is possible on a Parhelia
  10. Review cards are likely to be sent out in early June. WOOHOO!!! Final retail boards will likely be out in late June/early July.
  11. Did I mention Displacement Mapping totally rocks ??? Watching a character be N-Patched , then displacement mapped, makes a totally different look.
  12. To give you a sense of how powerful the pixel shaders are capable of being. The ocean demo with a shark, the bass, a school of fish? Everything is bumpmapped and using 4 textures per pixel. The Bass consists of 8 pixel shaders with 100 pixel shader instructions.
  13. The anisotropic filtering did sharpen Quake3. The Parhelia is capable of dynamically allocating 64 texture samples in a pass . In other words 1 pixel with 64 sample anisotropic filtering, or alternatively 4 pixels with 16 sample aniso in a single clock.
  14. Performance hit with 16x FAA in one application (no numbers, sorry) was about 20% with their 4x FSAA around 50% . Sorry , can't say more.
  15. Only one mode of FAA 16x at the moment.

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aha - sag ich da nur - weil was bringt sich das ganze oh, ah, wow, w00t, krass, geil, boah, fett, oida, eeek, usw sagen wenn`s das Teil doch (in Wirklichkeit - also zum kaufen) noch gar nicht gibt.... :D - deswegen wenn man keine Ahnung hat - einfach mal warten :D :)

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aha - sag ich da nur - weil was bringt sich das ganze oh, ah, wow, w00t, krass, geil, boah, fett, oida, eeek, usw sagen wenn`s das Teil doch (in Wirklichkeit - also zum kaufen) noch gar nicht gibt.... :D - deswegen wenn man keine Ahnung hat - einfach mal warten :D :)
Oh, ja, meine Begeisterung für den Parhelia-Chip hab' ich doch wohl durch unzählige "w00t"-, "l33t"- und "awesome"-Ausrufe im ersten bzw. zweiten Posting kundgetan? :rolleyes:

Willst du Infos vor dem Kauf der Karte oder kaufst lieber die Katze im Sack? Und ausserdem diskutiert man gerne darüber.

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20% performanceverlust bei 16x AA is oba ned viel wenns wirklich bessa ausschaut als 4x rotationg grid FSAA

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Oh, ja, meine Begeisterung für den Parhelia-Chip hab' ich doch wohl durch unzählige "w00t"-, "l33t"- und "awesome"-Ausrufe im ersten bzw. zweiten Posting kundgetan? :rolleyes:

Willst du Infos vor dem Kauf der Karte oder kaufst lieber die Katze im Sack? Und ausserdem diskutiert man gerne darüber.

naja, aber die ganzen Sachen like wie gut das Teil jetzt @ 3 Moni @ 16FSAA is intressiert mi ned so wirklich ;D


PS: Account hat Probleme - deswegen hab i kurzfristig an neuen angelegt :D

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naja, aber die ganzen Sachen like wie gut das Teil jetzt @ 3 Moni @ 16FSAA is intressiert mi ned so wirklich ;D
Unter diesen Umständen würde ich sagen, du bist hier im falschen Thread. :p

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naja, aber den Text kenn ich schon und das sie 300MHz Core haben wird waß i ah schon ;D

oida was is los mit dir? du postest nur Müll....gfreit die drüber, dassts weißt und gib Ruh, gibt Leute (wie mich) die sich über solche news freun.
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